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Woop Shotty · Sep 06, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

<--- Plays GW on Mac via Bootcamp (Vista). Runs well. Get XP instead, though. If you get Vista, you'll need to also get a beefier graphics card (that goes with all gaming on Vista compared to XP).

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Originally Posted by Etta

B. Both version of windows must be 32 bit, 64 bit won't work.

I think 64 bit versions of Windows work now, although I wouldn't recommend it. Side note: OS X conveniently runs 32 and 64 bit apps side by side on the single version of the OS, which I like.

Harvester of Sorrows · Sep 09, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

This might not be following the whole conversation but, If you've got a lot of money to spend on a nice looking computer that runs OS X and Windows then a Mac might be the best choice. Only issue I have with macs is that they're so freaking tiny. How are you supposed to do anything with that? It seems like if you opened it and were breathing too hard you'd break something. Other then that, fine computer. Also, why hasn't anyone mentioned Wine? It's free and I'm almost positive it works in OS X since OS X and Linux are both Unix based.
Edit: Not a Mac hater, I just don't have the sort of money to spend on a computer that I'd have to send in to get fixed. Excellent computers however.

Quaker · Sep 10, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I think it's because the performance of GW under Wine will indeed make you whine.

Etta · Sep 10, 2008, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Yeah bootcamp now support 64bit XP or Vista, my last post was from when? June? Wine is not bad actually if you can be arse to set it up. I rather spend, oh i dunno 5 second of my life to boot into window from OS.

And nvidia card is better as well, performance wise.

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrows

Only issue I have with macs is that they're so freaking tiny.

Ever seen Mac pro? It's basically a pc.

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrows

Not a Mac hater.

Yes, you are.

Harvester of Sorrows · Sep 11, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Still, $1,200-$2,000 + the cost of fixing it. In my opinion, if your intent is just to have a good computer that your not going to mess with, then a mac is perfect (With intel processors of course) They pretty much match the price of a PC with the same specifications. The thing about PCs is that I can get a really cheap PC and pick and choose what specifications I want to spend more money on (Crappier looking case, more ram, better GFX card, smalled hard drive, etc.)

Quaker · Sep 11, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrows

They pretty much match the price of a PC with the same specifications.

Well, no, they pretty much cost 50-100% more than an equivalent PC. Check these out:

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro... 108129&catid=

These are the result of just a quick search - note that the Dell has more RAM, bigger hard drive, better video, and the monitor would add $200

Or add the monitor to this one to total $1299:

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro... 107750&catid=

Please note though, that I'm not necessarily knocking Apple - A BMW cost more than a Toyota too - but if you want the style and OS of a Mac, do be aware that you will have to pay a premium for it.

P.s - same goes for laptops.

Harvester of Sorrows · Sep 11, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Well, thats right, I was reading a comparison. http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6511774-9.html
Apples are generally more expensive then PCs.
However, the ability to boot windows and OS X and the software.
I see it more like two BMW's same style except one has leather seats, a DVD player, GPS, etc.

Harvester of Sorrows · Sep 11, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

And if you shop around you can get good deals on just about anything.
Edit: Which means I sort of contradicted myself, but generally Macs have some pretty insane software pre-installed plus you're not going to be as susceptible to viruses and other similar things.

Joe Fierce · Sep 11, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

I've had both a mac as well as a PC, and though mac's are rather exemplary when it coems to them running appropriately thats about as far as it goes, when they are running correctly they are great, they are superior in the hardware aspect, it's their OS that's the downfall, no other OS is as easy to shut down as a macs, hell, it even shuts down on it's own hen you don't want it to. Ever seen a mac fail at failing? where it says that it cannot complete operation "shutdown" even though you didn't ask it to shutdown anyhow?

A great computer when it's running right, yes, bootcamp, runs vista better than a PC, we know all of this, but too frequently take a nose dive duje to hardware or software problems, and yes I know, PC's do this just as frequently, but the difference is this: when my First ever dell failed due to hardware problems that had nothing to do with me, hardware that they themselves installed, they sent a FREE box with FREE sipping postage to get my PC fixed for FREE.

Whereas my last ever Mac, one of those ugly teal-blue monstrosities, when it died a mere two months after purchase due to a hardware failure mac sent me a box with COSTY postage, which they didn't cover, sixty dollars, and once it arrived to the company and the did a diagnostic on it their basic response was even though it was a malfunction of hardware they installed, i can sit on it and rotate or fork out 200 bucks for them to fix it.

hmm, free repairs? or expensive computer and the company doesn't give a fat flying fugg about you?

like i said, macs ARE superior when they are running right. it's when they're not, which happens more often than not, that gives them a bad name, and it doesn't help that their crappy customer support team gets in the middle of it and complicates and pisses off the customer even more.

macs could be easily justified if they stuck to the basic standard of "you get what you pay for"

but the problem with that being that they have terrible customer service.